ELCA Revisionists and Dialogue Most of my friends thought that the Evangelical Lutherans were going about this whole gay debate thing in a good way. They were talking about the issue and thinking and praying. Sure, there's no way anyone can talk, think, and pray away the truth. But, at least it's not just pushing a gay bishop and saying everyone else be damned. Now it seems the gay activists in the Evangelical Lutheran Church don't want to wait. Of course not. They don't want a conversation or an honest look into the issue. They want their agenda and they want it now. It's the same today when the liberals in ECUSA say they want to listen. What they really mean is they talk and the orthodox will shut up. Let the Lutheran example be a lesson: dialogue with revisionists is pointless.